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…because it is run by a bunch of fraudsters and violent criminals!
Why, you might ask? Here is the whole story:
My fiancee and me had a ball of a time partying the night away with friends on New Year’s Eve in Jalan Dhyana Pura, Bali. After midnight, around 3-4am of the first day of the New Year 2007, we thought it might be a good idea to sway in some chill-out rhythms to one of Kuta’s famous in-places - the music club “MBarGo” in Jalan Legian, Kuta. We’d been there before and usually they play a nice mix of music on 2 floors.
We definitely weren’t aware of the nightmare the 2 of us were about to face within just a few minutes of arriving there!
But step after step: To get a good overview about what was going on, we steadily climbed the stairs to the upper floor and marched staight to the wall bar facing the right side, when seen from the road. I ordered 2 Bintang Beer and a pack of Sampoerna Cigarettes, which promptly appeared in front of me. I handed over a Rp 100.000 bill and waited for my change.
As a beer costs Rp 15.000 in MBarGo and a pack of cigarettes shouldn’t go for more than Rp 10-20.000 (it costs actually only Rp 8.000), I awaited something around Rp 50.000 back in change.
To my surprise I was given only a Rp 10.000 and Rp 5.000 note back.
I really don’t mind giving generous tips, but please let me decide when and how much!
So I enquired for the missing change and was thrown another Rp 5.000 note right at me with a splendid kind of arrogance by the bar man. Great, I thought!
I tried an explanation to the barkeeper, why I expected a bit more change; when I was screamed at, “What you want?”, “Wanna make trouble?” and other nice none-audible remarks. I pulled another Rp 100.000 Bill from my pocket and showed to him, while explaining, what note he had received from me and why I expected some more change.
That was the point, when suddenly 2 or 3 MBarGo Security Staff appeared right behind me, all screaming and yelling at me. I tried to remain calm and explain the situation, but I was grabbed at my clothes, punched in the back and pushed around and yelled at by a growing group of MBargo Security staff!
I screamed back at them; that we just want our money back and leave the place - all while the 2 beer and pack of cigarettes were still standing untouched on the bar.
That’s when they started to kick my legs and even kicking and throwing punches at my fiancee. Imagine a bunch of 4 or 5 Security Guys; wildly yelling and screaming and kicking their boots into a Couple of their customers! Am talking strong men here - punching and kicking at a woman, who wasn’t even involved in the whole discussion!
What was happening here??? Truly Surreal!
We didn’t fight back at all, as this would be completely useless in front of 4 or 5 idiots, ready to break a fight and charge at their own customers! We were more than outnumbered anyway. Instead I grabbed my fiancee and we headed hand-in-hand straight back to the staircase down - basically flushed forward and falling head over heels by punches and kicks by a now out of control bunch of MBarGo Security Staff right into our backs!
The other Guests and Customers of the club were starring at the whole scene in disbelieve.
I couldn’t believe it myself! I was never in a bar fight before, let alone someone wanted to beat me up, who’s customer I was! What is wrong with those guys at MBarGo? Were they drunk, drugged, just plain angry that they had to work? Or that I just didn’t accept to pay their forced tip money? Unbelievable!
Okay, so what was the damage done:
- My fiancee had a small bleeding wound (skin scrapped) at the ankle of her right foot, a bruise on her left knee and a swollen back of the left hand (see pictures)
- I fortunately just have an aching back and legs, no bruises so far
- Some buttons of my shirt were torn off
- My Rp 100.000 were gone of course, hell no - I got Rp 20.000 back. Cheers to that!
- A spoiled start into the New Year 2007, what more can you ask for?
This club/bar truly deserves its name! Is that what Security stands for at MBarGo? To secure their customers from their money in a violent manner and ensure that the customers leave the place beaten up? Beating up women???
Actually those people deserve to be put out of business and behind prison bars; what is what would have actually happened in any other place than Bali.
I never had an experience like this before and am really shocked about their behaviour. I can’t explain it. We are normal, easygoing people - neither arrogant or rude - we weren’t even drunk or making any trouble at all. We were a properly dressed couple, just wanting to chill-out with a few beer in the morning of the first day of the New Year. The only thing we were guilty of, is not wanting to pay a forced tip to the barkeeper.
Okay, that’s it for me. What I will do is to post and tell about this incident to everyone who wants and don’t want to hear it. Hopefully, I can warn a few people and this MBarGo Idiots are losing a few more of their customers and - if only - a small part of their business.
Anyway - enjoy YOUR start into the New Year 2007!
Just try to avoid the following venue, except if you want to train for the Ultimate Fighter Championship:
MBarGo, Jalan Legian Kuta, Bali, Tel.No +62 361 756280
:-(
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That’s horrible!
I’m just glad you and your fiancee were safe in the end. It sounded like a terrible ordeal that could have resulted in much much worse.
It sounds like that sort of place doesn’t get held responsible for that kind of behavior… which is just ridiculous. And on New Year’s, of all times.
I hope the rest of your 2007 is safe and wonderful and… if there really is karma in this world, those people see some of the consequences of their actions.
MBargo is a horrible place and I am not surprised at what you describe. I found the staff rude and aggressive and certainly would never go there again.
Thugs at the door brimming with speed and steroids, waiting to put the boot in, as you describe.
Try Baccio down on the beach near Double 66 a much more pleasant hang-out or other spots in the environs.
Hope your New Year improves..
That really screwed up…We will only go by there and take a complaint to the bouncing baby boys and give them your message in their own way. Sorry bro, hope ya don’t think the whole area is like that. Happy NY
Wow! What a way to start the New Year!
Be safe…
dude, why don’t you call the cops ? i think they should be hanging around, didn’t they ?
bali is great place, these kinda people should be put in jail.
What a dreadful start to your New Year. Maybe you should celebrate in Norway next year:-)
Btw: Thanks for adding me as friends at MyBlogLog and Happy New Year to you!
Have a safe New Year mate!
Mack.
you could report the matter to the police, although it may be worth finding out who actually owns the place beforehand, of course!
Actually a similar trick was recently pulled on me at a petrol station in Jakarta. I gave the guy a Rp100,000 note and he returned change as if I had given him a Rp50,000 note. You have to have eyes like a hawk as the Rp100,000 note is virtually identical to the new Rp10,000 note.
That’s my I refuse to get Rp100,000 notes now. The Rp50,000 notes are much better and you can’t get cheated in the same way. Just ask for them the next time you go to the bank.
cheers
That is a crazy story. Unfortunately, there is a lot of temptation to rip off tourists. A money changer tried to rip me off in Bali ones, but I caught the slight of hand magicians trick with the money.
Wow, so many comments in so short time! Thanks to you all for the tips and the comfort.
Regarding the question: why didn’t we go to the police?
We had a bad experience once in Vietnam (Phu Quoc Island), where we got robbed in our hotel room. At the police station later we wasted almost 3 days (!) with them, with no outcome at all. Had to write basically our own police report, always someone important wasn’t there, so we had to come back half a dozen times, were laughed at by the cops: why we wanted to file a report, were accused by the cops of trying to cheat our insurance (even though we didn’t have one) and other BS. So, besides the loss, we wasted there more time and effort from our side. Maybe this trauma is still alive.
I don’t want to say, this is what will happen in Bali. But here other problems can arise as well. Just google for “Candi ISP Bali” for an example, on what could happen, if you don’t have the right connections. My experience with Cops in Bali so far is restricted to their permanent traffic holdups/controls. Very often you just end up handing them some Rp 20.000 or spending some more time of your day with them. They are always very friendly!
MBarGo is rubbish! You should’ve been in Bounty!
I am pretty sure the owner of the MBARGO is Brent(also owner of the now closed Bali Rock in Melasti st) he is from Karrinyup here in Perth WESTERN AUSTRALIA.
That’s insane.
Try the club near the beach , such a Hard Rock Cafe , Center Stage, Kamasutra or Double Six …they have a good standart as night club .
well this just confirms some things for me …..NOT to stay in this area again,we are booking Bali this week again and stayed at the Sofitel the last time,hotel was great but had a few strange and unsavoury incidents around this area,stuff Seminyak it’s now Legian or Tuban, and thanks for the warning.
that is horrible. i believe you because a similar scam happened to me last year. after ordering, getting my beer, and paying, i had to wait for change since the waiter didn’t have enough on him. after about 20 minutes of not getting anything back i had to go track the guy down, and remind him he owed me. it was a total pain in the ass. i had been living in Bali for a month now and went to mbargo almost every night. i always tipped. i only had this problem at the upstairs bar. anyway after what seemed like the better part of my night had been spent arguing, i finally got my change. i was lucky i guess, no one hit or tried to throw me out. perhaps because some other staff recognized me, but i was completely pissed off.
on a separate occasion i saw the bar backs pouring mansion house whiskey (the cheap local brand) into already opened bottles of jack daniel’s!
also the manager at the time was a total prick, not even a head nod or a hello after all the money and time spent there.
i had had many good nights at mbargo. it was a great place to go with friends and meet other people. the music was always good and well mixed. it was usually the most popular club in the area. i was hoping that the bad things i had experienced had changed, but it sounds like its getting worse. i’m sorry that that happened to you guys.
Many people have asked why didnt you call the police. There is an indonesian expression which goes ” If you lose a chicken and call the police, you will lose a cow.” Off-duty police work as security in Indonesian clubs so it was probably the police that beat you up anyway! Youre lucky they didnt plant drugs on and throw you in jail for twenty years.
i come from france iv got 18 years old every summer since 2003 i go to bali and da club Bounty/Mbargo/66 and i never had problem with the security staff every member of the security was so nice with me and my friend just in front of mbargo they ask us to come…. they like us, never problem…. but maybe its coz we’re french and we dont go to da club in bali like every autralian guys or american with a short and a ridiculou t-shirt “bintang”…. if you dont wanna have problem in da balinese club do like u have to do in every club in the world: fashionable jeans/ fashion tshirt/ fashion hair cuts… ans aroud 200dollard in your poket…. or be like us…. be the sons of aj hackett …. Stop say that in mgargo da staff is agresive… already 3 summer in bali: july and august and 0 problem so come in da club with a strictly dress code a smile in front of da staff and every moment in all of the club gonna be so sweet in this paradise…..
Huh? Camille are you on French flavoured crack? Best you stay in France with that attitude! Chris had something terrible happen to him and his fiance, he has a god given right to tell others and hopefully it may avoid the same happening to someone else…
Mbargo is owned by Mr Kadek, also owns Double Six club, Bacio, Papparazi, Gado Gado plus many others. He is owner of now bankrupted Paradise Air, though rumoured to be starting up again this year.
Best to boycot all these place because he’s in it for pure revenue, he doesn’t care about a few instances where his staff behave in a very bad manner. They are notorious here for being like this, so sad because Bali is really suffering and this just ads to the down turn. Best go to Thailand next trip…
Oh my god…
A very good site! I was out with an balinese friend at MBarGo, coz my boyfriend don’t like diskothek. (Soory for bad english!!!) The balinese guy is a very good guy, I know him really good. At last night in MBarGo someone stole my mobile phone and my camera, my boyfriend was thinking that the balinese friend steel it. We had a lot of trouble. I was going back to MBarGo in the morning with my balinese friend to look for my things, some people have been there to clean the rooms. I told them about what happend, and they were only smiling like: U stupid european girl!! Now, after I read this side, I know that my balinese friend really didn’t stole my things. I had never belived, that there is so much criminal in MBarGo!!! Hopley next time I know better…
You know what…i know the mbargo guards preety wells they re only start to acting agressively when the coustoumer is rude..or they may assumed you re both are drunken…bcoz most of the time the fault is not the staff but the guest who is looking for trouble…i knows those guys are balinese and also the staff so there will be noting be done..to stop it they just doing theirs jobs…that all guys! dont hold grundge!..they quite nice fellows if ur know them for awhile..ha….ha….but mostlikely they dont trust tourist bcoz full of shit…..ha…ha….
The same ting happened to me at MbarGo they did not give me back the right change did not make ah fuss being a girl and all alone in Bali for the first time. Bali is a place that it dosent matter if it’s day or night theres always someone trying to rip you off that all most of them know to do. Next time have the right denomations of cash for two beers that way you dont have to wait for change. hope you have better luck in Bali next time, Keep safe.
Almost the same story as happened to me in March 2007. I was out with my Russian friend in MBarGo… She unfurtnaly got so drunk, we had to carry her to the taxi, with one of the security guards… At that time I wasn’t thinking about my cell phone and cigarettes, which they were left on the table, just next to the security guard, the first table on the left at the entrance… Of course after I came back from the street, they were all gone, including cigarettes… Next day I went back and say to the security guy, if he knows anything about the telephone (Nokia E50), and he asked me: What do you want, you want your telephone back? I said, no, no, I just want to give him also the charger
Mitch, Slovenia…
I think I like Obsession and La Vida Loca the best, no problems there at all… Just ignore MBarGo, and you will have no problems… ;)
Man you really better be careful talking about mbargo that way, and tell me this, how come your main picture with your face shows you as a white guy but the images of the wounds u got from what happend to you are of some one who had very dark skin a local bali boy most likely, i know mbargo security some of them may not be too friendly but thats just because they’re on the job and trying to be professional, i strongly doubt mbargo security would “beat up” people of a foreign origin so basically im calling u a liar or an overly excessive exaggerator, plus if anything did happen im sure i would of heard about it. Btw man u are one fucking poofter u know, as if a bunch of guys hit ur girl and u didnt do anything about it faggot! u deserved to get bashed way worse than u did u pussy!
Ahh Pete u think ur a *** **** ay, ouh u know who owns mbargo and what else he owns, we should all take u seriouly! its a fucking business maximizing profits is the general goal for every business so what the fuck is this whole talk about “Best to boycot all these place because he’s in it for pure revenue” do u think using business terms like revenue is gonna make us think u know wat ur talking about? ******! u should really be carefull before talking **** about some one who is highly respected! i bet ur a ****** **** ***** that made a business that just cant compete with these places u say to “boycott”, pathetic ***! or ur just a kid that they wont let into these places, take ur pick!
(**** Personally insulting language replaced with *** by Chris, please refrain from further comments which insult readers on a personal level, as they will be removed!)
Russle, I read your comments, even so they are quite rude!
Somehow I think you haven’t read the article completely, otherwise you would know, that the pictures don’t show me, but my indonesian fiancee. And even though I don’t mind, if people want to have same-sex relationships, I have to disappoint you: am not available for one. Sure you can call me a liar or faggot or whatever, but just ask yourself: why should I make that story up? Other people seem to have similar experiences in MBargo. And why should I show my face, if I have something to hide?
The reason why I didn’t fight a crowd of 4-5 security guys on steroids alone is maybe not obvious to you; but this way I could protect my fiancee and me better than getting beaten up completely. I’m sure you would have won a fight with them and you are free to defend yourself, should you happen to be beaten up in MBargo.
Anyway, I will have to erase further comments of you, if they contain insulting language to me or readers of this blog.
Regarding your comment to Pete, besides the insulting swear words, I don’t see any substance to it. Business has nothing to do with cheating customers of their money. If that’s the business, then I put it on the same level like gangsters, fraudsters, mafia or else. Is that the business you are talking about?
So if you want to discuss this topic seriously here, please use appropriate language, alternatively e-mail me directly or go somewhere else!
mbargo is the best im mates with the owner (pak kadek)…you possibly deserved it you probably earn more in half a week than they earn in a month you should be greatfull
mbargo is great every things there is great so go to bali go 2 mbargo but also go to bounty // 66 club and bacio!!!!!!!!!!
i think you was drunk. i went to embargo everyday and never have problem, i live in bali 6 mounth every year, never have problem in embargo .
Oh my… Poor Russle, not only being in-compassionate, he’s an ignorant homophobic fool. Chris, not to worry, just have comfort in the thought that poor little Russle is scared of words such as revenue but embraces words such as “poofter”, “faggot”, “pussy”, etc in his day to day life.
It’s funny some of the comments so far calling Chris a liar, saying he’s exaggerating, and he deserved it. Ultimately I think Chris just wanted to warn other people in the hope that it doesn’t happen to someone else. I believe Chris’ story and I hope all future comments are of support.
Good luck Chris, just ignore people like Russle.
I just don’t want to censor those comments completely, as everyone should believe what they want to believe. What I can do is only to tell what happened to us and warn other people. If people decide to go there anyway and nothing happens - good for them!
It’s just a matter of perspective and everyone should take his/her own risks in their lives.
I go to Bali for surfing trip twice a year and stay 2 - 3 months a year. I believe this story, I’ve seen it happen many times in the bars in Bali. I’ve seen it happen a few times in mbargo. I have had a few times problems with my money at the upstairs bar in mbargo.
Bong, if you are good mates with mr kadek if he is the owner, maybe it’s better you talk to him about the problem. Can you do that? Or can’t you string more than one sentence together?
Hi (first sorry for my bad English), thanks to share this story anyway everyone have free opinion about this. Its kind of good refference to be more aware. Iam Indo girl who just arrive and start work in Bali and this weekend just wanna try to go to Embargo, since a couple friends said it was cool in there and cheaper drinks than others clubs.
I am agree with Maurice ” If you lose a chicken and call the police, you will lose a cow.” not all the police just part of them. Then with who we were complain?? this media… aware us to be more aware.
There’s a rule that for local we should pay for entrance & free for foreign. Do you think its fair? Well for the reason that ‘local just get in free & didn’t buy drink & foreign will buy drink, it is ok as long as not racist reason’
I am sorry for you & ur fiancee to having bad start of 2007.
If you want to complain I suggest try to write a letter or e-mail to Indonesia Local Newspaper. For reference :
- Kompas (Bahasa Indonesia)
- Koran Tempo (Bahasa Indonesia)
- The Jakarta Post (English)
Maybe it will more get attention from the club owner or management and warn a lot of people also not cost you a lot of money too
I’ve never been fond of Embargo. The music is not my style, the local women there are mostly prostitutes, and on some nights the men outnumber the women. I prefer Bounty.
I know its been nearly a year now since this whole ordeal unfolded; however, I can only tell you that people that have bad karma — “What goes around, comes around”. Also, avoid the rat infested Kama Sutra. Literally; thousands of rats are under the floorboards of Kama Sutra. The stone tiles cover the floorboards so you rarely see them. Once and a while, rats will eat through the wood and tile and make their way onto table tops, or they will been seen running around the dance floor.
iv lived in bali since the age of 8, and been going out to Mbargo since im 13…..NEVER one problem, just nice times with friends in the club….Bouncers are nice, u just have to chill with them and get to know them! waiters are nice….but at nice their stressed,maybe because 50 cheap australians and americans want a bintang at the same time!!!! and no duh the bouncers beet them up and get rippeed of by servers. First their drunk, loud, anoy the girls, and cause problems. Second servers get paid so little that taking of like 10 000 RP from you just made their day, and for u its 1 dollar….so just leave it, or say (i know u took it….but enjoy it! and have a laff with him!
Oh and chris……if u got ur ass kicked thats probably cause u were rude, or flashing the 100 000 RP bill around abit to much…..oh and u said ur girls a local, they probably thought u were the type of guy tht paid the girl to spend the night with u and Indo people had tht…im not saying u did
Meanwhile this topic is behind me. It’s been almost a year. You guys gave us a great deal of support and hopefully some more people will be avoiding MBargo and similar kind of venues. Thanks a lot for all the tips as well!
For sure I can’t agree with all people who commented here.
I for myself don’t really see a point of getting to know bouncers and bar staff first, just to be secure, when I just want to have a good night out. And I’m definitely not the arrogant or ‘flashing-money-bills’ type.
So I just have to avoid those places in the future and hope to enjoy my life without security staff on steroids and other trouble-makers.
Wow i can’t believe people like you.
Fair enough you had a shit time there but let people make up there own mind. don’t say ‘try to avoid the following venue’
Your photos are piss weak if thats all you got i wouldn’t be complaining. I got a burn from a scooter
muffler (bali kiss) and it looks a hundred times worse than that. Seriously if any one out there takes your advice they must truely be idiots. If your reading this then go check out MBarGo and make up your own mind. I clubbed there for 17 days without anything going wrong. The staff were great, they gave the correct money and they were even dancing behind the bar. The music is the best hip hop/ house in bali that i have seen to date.
iv been going out since i was 14. mbargo really isnt that bad. but you should be careful. dont create problems. almost all of the bouncers are part of the indonesian Mafia. i know it sounds a bit strange but its true. they have plenty of customers so to them, they dont care wether or not they have your business. i do ask why you would flash 100,000 around. thats probably a bartenders wage for 2 weeks.
It’s up to everyone what to believe or not. For sure it’s up to me to write my experience down and warn other people out there or not. As many other commentators agreed, there are issues in/with MBargo staff. For others there are not. Fine! That’s democracy.
This article was meant to inform and you don’t throw away your Lonely Planet because you don’t agree with some of its findings, or do you?
i do agree with some of the article, iv seen it on a few occasion. but it happens to PEOPLE WHO CREATE PROBLEMS. but by writing this article, you’ve kinda ruined it for others. i mean honestly, you do make it sound worse then it is.
i do have to wonder what you were doing down jl. dhyana pura. thats is where all the gay bars are located. “this would be completely useless in front of 4 or 5 idiots“, shows just how nicely you refer to the Balinese bouncers. your trying to be a victim and a savior of other peoples lives at the same time. just a tad stupid. the worlds not relying on you to write this down.
Louisiana, like it or not. That’s what I experienced. Nobody has to rely on my opinion - in this point you are 100% right.
I’m a tolerant traveler of many years and a human being who respects other cultures. If bad things happen, I will write about it as well as I write about the positive things. Bad behavior is international and Balinese Bouncers are no different to Bouncers in Sydney or Los Angeles. They are there to ensure security and safety, but not to beat up customers.
How can I ruin someones experience, if I simply write down what happened? If it is ‘Indonesian Mafia’, like you said earlier, people have a right to know, no?
BTW, what is your problem with gay people - are they natural ‘trouble makers’ as well in your eyes? ;)
Hey was just browsing the net and came across this forum. Anyway I myself have some words to say about MBARGO club.
My friends and I decided to visit MBARGO Club in Bali on Jan 2, 2008, hoping to enjoy our final night of our three day visit to the beautiful island of Bali. Our group consisted of a mix of local Indonesians including myself as well as my other friends who happened to be foreigners. Upon entering the club I had discovered much to my surprise that MBARGO imposes an entrance policy which precludes foreign nationals to pay an entrance fee but on the other hand charges locals a fee of Rp 50.000,00 which includes a standard first drink.
I was shocked to discover that such a highly discriminatory policy was implemented and there are several issues I would like to address with regards to this matter. In addition to finding that this policy is inherently inequitable, I have found that the inconsistent implementation of this policy has only exacerbated matters. My friend who was there with me that evening is British by nationality but Asian by ethnicity (and did not speak any Indonesian), she was asked to pay for an entrance fee without even asking for her ID to confirm her nationality. As a matter of fact none of us were asked to present our ID in order to confirm our nationalities. On the other hand some of my other friends who were Caucasian entered without any fuss. Admittedly after she complained and was eventually given her money back and allowed in. A full ID check to everyone entering the club therefore is necessary in order to ensure consistency in this offensive policy. After all is it not possible that some Caucasian may possess Indonesian passports? Or that as the case with my friend, Asians or indigenous looking people holding foreign passports? What further puzzles me is the fact that such a policy is not written anywhere at the front entrance or anywhere within the premises of the club.
I have asked members of the staff the reason behind the implementation of such a policy and none have been able to provide me a satisfying answer, merely stating that it has always been the case and is apparently a common policy in some Bali nightclubs. There are many theories on why such a policy is in place but I would like the management of MBARGO in Bali to address the reasons behind this. Until a satisfactory explanation is provided I urge anyone both local and foreign tourists alike to avoid places that implement similar entrance policies as it clearly shows a flagrant disregard to fairness and respect to the Indonesian people.
I think what has been said about MBARGO truly reflects the mentaliy and ethos of the management: a total lack of respect to its customers.
I work at MBarGo, also at Ku De Ta, and 66 as a Dj.. I also know most of the security staff.. and I can believe what happened to you, but they wouldnt do any of that unless provoked… did you forget that indonesians wipe their ass with their left hand? and anything handed to them with the left hand is considered an insult?? did you talk to the barman with your left hand raised?? any of these things could of been mistaken for insult!
Be more careful!
Also, in regard to Richard’s comment above as to why most bali nightclubs charge locals, but not foreigners, is because they want to keep all the prostitues and drug dealers out of the clubs, which is a good thing for everyone. Prostitues cause trouble. plain and simple.
I am an expat who has lived in Indonesia for the last 5 years and have no doubts that this actually happened. I saw a far more serious thing
happen to my friend in 66 (same security, these places are all run by the same person, the security are mostly off duty police, and are members a LASKAR, a
5000 member organisation in Bali basically run by the police who collect “tax” on everything).
He was drunk in 66 (i will tell it straight), and a few members of LASKAR were in the bar also. They are all good friends of security. One of them
pushed my friend, and he made the mistake of pushing back. He copped a bar stool over the back of the head, which opened him up and put him in
shock. This all happened while he was on the way to the toilet. When he came back i saw him bleeding, and he gave me the story. I have since talked to
others, and thats how it was.
I work all over the world (usually in politically unstable places, usually under gaurd or security protection) and have a good eye for seeing trouble.
I immediately saw a large group of Balinese guys (NOT javanese) talking, joking and pointing at us (security at the club included). I began to lead my friend out, when they approached and i was punched in the mouth. I saw i was hopelessly outnumbered and my friend was already wounded, i asked (i speak fluent
indo after working here for an engineering company for several years) if i could just take him out, and go home. I was punched again, he was
ripped from me, beaten and kicked by at least 6 guys, while 2 held me and security virtually made a shield , purely to hide the violence from the other
guests.
They never intervined, and he was kicked on the ground (in the head, back, ribs and even up the arse) for at least 3 minutes. This all happened
INSIDE. When we finally got out, he was bottled over the back of the head, right outside the front doors, in front of security.
We got into transport, and finally got home, where i picked glass splinters out of the back of his head for the next half hour.
I personally saw the guy who bottled my friend (my friend is also an expat) talk to security, and go back inside.Both parties smiling.
As far as reporting this to the cops….well we later found half of them were cops…
All you 1 or 2 motnh a year holiday heroes who say why didnt ya fight back…we tried. The hero who says . “Pak Kadek is a mate of
mine”…haha, hes a U.S. dollar billionaire, one of the wealthiest men in all of Indonesia, and you want us to believe hes your “mate”…hahaha, yeah, i
bet yous are real tight! Beers after surfing together , comes round to your place for movies? Your a tosser.
The girl who thiks fashion and carrying 200 bucks is the answer….pffft, you got a lot of living to do
And the homophobe idiot…geez mate, get out of your own back yard and you’ll see there are bigger things to worry about than which guy likes
other guys or not…! who cares, why arent you chasing chicks instead of getting angry about what others are doing. You will forever be restricted to your own back yard if seeing gays makes you mad mate, cause its everywhere if you happen to open your eyes.
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The girl who says we shouldnt wave 100,000 Rp notes around…..are you 12?
Do you only go out with your pocket money and get drunk on 2 drinks? Some of us spend 700,00Rp a night, you want us to carry around 20,000 Rp notes!
And Yoan, who says, its OK to let them take an extra $1 or 10,000 Rp out of your change, it might be okay for you on your little 1 week holiday here to Bali, but believe me, when you are a westerner, and youlive in bali full time, do you let this happen every single day.? Oh yeah, thats right, its only a dollar. Id like to see you hand over a dollar a few times a day, EVERY day, for a few years. By you letting them get away with it, and not having the balls to stand up for yourself, you help them think they can do it all the time, and this is what actually leads to what happened to Chris, it sounds like they thought he was another stupid tourist like you Yoan, who allows herself to be had by others, and when he asked for his correct change, they didnt appreciate it. Thanks for all the g